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Community: Win your fees back
Posted on Sunday, February 06 @ 13:02:58 PST by poster

Announcements marchmont writes "Undergraduates from England, Wales and Northern Ireland are forced to pay up to £3,600 in tuition fees. Undergraduates from Scotland and therest of EU do not have to pay these fees. Under Human Rights legislation this is unfair. If you are an English, Welsh or Northern Irish student studying in Scotland, and you believe that you are being discriminated against, then we would like to help.
You too could qualify for free legal aid and support from a leading educational lawyer. (No costs win or lose!!)
Would you like to find out more?

We are for real, you can check it out: http://news.scotsman.com/education.cfm?id=25832005
In Scotland undergraduates from England are forced to pay up to £3,600 in tuition fees. Undergraduates from Scotland and the EU do not have to pay this. This is unfair under human rights legislation.
You too may qualify for free legal aid and support from a leading education lawyer (NO COSTS WIN OR LOSE).
FAQ Q: Who will I actually be taking to court?
A: This is not a case against Scotland or the Scottish people. Although the current unfair treatment of UK students from outside Scotland has resulted from decisions made by the Scottish Executive, the UK Parliament remains sovereign. Westminster now exercises that sovereignty by devolving legislative responsibilities to the Scottish Parliament without in any way diminishing its own powers. So ultimately the buck stops with the UK Government.
Q: Will I have to pay if I lose the case?
A: No, were you to have a claim it may be that you would qualify for legal aid and therefore there would be no costs win or lose.
Q: But if I win won’t all students end up having to pay fees?
A: The majority of England’s MPs voted against top-up fees, the top-up fees bill was passed by the UK Parliament only through the votes of Scotland’s MPs. By voting in this way for England, Scotland’s MPs have already indirectly imposed fees on Scotland: Scotland’s universities will gradually be forced to charge fees in order to counter their resulting financial disadvantage within the UK. England’s universities or “fee refugee” students should not be made scapegoats for what is ultimately the result of Scotland’s own MPs voting on a specifically English matter (England’s MPs have no right to vote on similar matters for Scotland – even if those matters will affect the people of England).
Q: Students from Scotland need more funding than students from England don’t they?
A: Poorer students are the most likely to be deterred from Higher Education by the prospect of graduating with substantial debts. People in disadvantaged constituencies in Scotland are nearly twice as likely to participate in further education than those of similar disadvantaged constituencies in England. To prevent “fee refugees” the Scottish Executive plans to charge students from England £5,700. Medical students from England will face a bill of £15,000. Scottish students (those who have lived in Scotland for more than three years), and EU students will continue to pay a maximum of £2,000 only on completion of their course. (Government spending on education per head - England: £911, Scotland: £1,038, Wales: £970, Northern Ireland: £1,215 (HM Treasury, PESA ‘Identifiable Expenditure’ April 2004)).
Q: Eligibility for support is simply dependent upon three years of ordinary residence in Scotland, how can this be discriminatory?
A: There are direct and indirect forms of discrimination. Whilst one may become a ‘New Scot’ after living in Scotland for three years (and be given special entitlements accordingly), political recognition of England’s own plural and inclusive nationhood continues to be denied. Unfortunately the EU permits differential treatment of students from outside the EU. As yet this remains unchallenged. Our support is specific to intranational discrimination within the UK Member State of the EU and is open to all nationals of the UK including those of Wales and Northern Ireland.
Q: So what has all this to do with the CEP (Campaign for an English Parliament)?
A: Many CEP members believe that since the majority of England’s MPs voted against top-up fees, an English Parliament should scrap them. This would benefit students not just in England, but also ultimately throughout the UK. Whilst promoting its own cause, the CEP supports all students regardless of political persuasion.
Q: OK, so what do I need to do?
A: First you need to go to www.thecep.org.uk and complete the ‘claim your fees back’ form. You can keep updated through the CEP website, and could soon have support from a leading education lawyer. Remember you are not alone – through the CEP you can stay in contact with other students who are doing the same as you. "

 

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